ND Admissions LIVE: College of Engineering

Alright, it's nice to have these people on here. I used to do this individually and that was a mess.

All right, welcome everybody. As we're coming on in, we have a lot of you joining us. We're going to just give everybody a moment or two to kind of log in. We are expecting about 200 of you tonight so I just wanna make sure we give everybody a moment to get logged in, get situated, and then we'll kind of go over some more logistics of how of how tonight will go. Alright, so we'll give everybody a minute or two before we jump into our culture. Engineering session.

Alright, so as people are joining in just to give you a little bit of an orientation to kind of how the session will work tonight, we're joined by Emily and Mike and myself as well and I'm I'm Andrew Bartolini. I'm an assistant teaching professor and what kind of introduce ourselves here in a second, the way that the platform is set up is that you can see us. We can't see you.

But we would love for your participation through asking questions throughout the present throughout the topic and throughout the talk tonight. So the way that it works for you is that you can enter in questions into your window, and then they'll appear to us. And then what we can do is we can approve them, which will go to the chat. We can add our comments in there as well. Alright, so if you put in your question and you, and you wonder if it's not appearing at the moment we do have it in our queue, well, when we will do our best to get to all the questions but they they appear in our queue, and then once we approve them you'll see them in your chat. Alright, so that's kind of how that piece will work, but again.

We would love to kind of answer your questions throughout the presentation and and get more kind of your insights as well. So in the way that we do it tonight is we try to cover a whole boatload of topics. Will try to hit a bunch of different things in the College of Engineering 1st year and and really get your information that you can help use understand what nerd name engineering is and why we're unique and kind of how that works. Alright, so we'll go ahead and get started. Now we've we've been about 130 people for a few seconds, so I think we'll go ahead and get started on the first thing that I wanna do is just start off by congratulating you.

On on getting to this stage and kind of the the application process right? And and and and having the opportunity to kind of learn more about what we have at Universal Raymond and we really hope that you that you decided to come to their name and join our family. It's a great family and and I think you're going to see that over the presentation today, but we always want to make sure we congratulate you because you're here on the call because of your hard work that you've done all in, you know, high school and even before then. So congratulations and welcome to our presentation tonight. My name is Andrew Bartolini. I am.

An assistant teaching professor here at Notre Dame. I also work with the American Society of Civil Engineers. It's a club that I work with, so it's also advisor there. I've been at her name for 13 years. This is I'm going on the 13th year, so I started as an undergraduate and your shoes, right? I graduated from high school in the in the 2009, so I was in your shoes about 1314 years ago. Decided to pick their name. I actually started off in the called over there out of the School of Architecture, right. And then I decided to move into civil engineering app during my first year.

So that we'll talk about one of the benefits of nerd name is you have this ability to kind of discern direct during your first year, and then I end up staying in her name. Getting a PhD in civil engineering and then and then again. I have been teaching and coordinating in the first year engineering program, right? So I'm gonna let Emily and Mike both introduce themselves now. I'll let Emily go first and then they'll kind of explain their their pathways to get to here as well.

Hi everyone, I'm just again as Professor Bartolini said congratulations. This is really exciting. I hope you're all excited so as he said, I'm only Wilborn I am a in my 4th year so I call myself a senior in the rally dual degree program. So I'm sitting mechanical engineering and industrial design so I'll actually be back at Nurding next year finishing up both of my degrees. I'm originally from Rochester NY but here on campus.

I live in Howard Hall. Go ducks. It's the best storm on campus and outside of the classroom. I've been involved as a tour guide. I have done research in engineering and one of the things I think is most of my time is I'm actually a captain and vice president for Nurding women boxing team. So yeah, that's just about me and what I do here on campus and I'll pass off to Mike.

Hi everyone, I'm really excited to present to you tonight. My name is Mike Fredo. I am a junior computer science major. I live just outside of Philadelphia at home and on campus. I'm in Dillon Hall. I'm actually in the California right now. I'm with the Silicon Valley semester. It's a domestic study abroad program we have on which I'm sure we can talk about later.

Now that I'm involved with the CS for Good Club and I've been involved in student government as well.

Alright, perfect, so we're excited to to have both Emily and Mike here on campus. All right, not in campus. Well Emily, on campus Mike's in California so he gets a nice weather. We're expecting a great amount of snow with the students are very excited about. Michael won't get that snow tomorrow, but but I'm sure he'll enjoy the sunshine too. And so the first bit that we wanted to kind of talk about is why engineering right? So you're here at the College of Engineering session, so why look at engineering? And I think that a lot of what motivates us teach engineering or Dame is the fact that engineers.

Are very service oriented and I think that's definitely that we have in her name is that we are looking to meet the needs of society, right? You interact with things that are engineered every day, right? And so engineering is kind of this. This great kind of combination of creating things that humans need and then they need to use right? And we apply our knowledge that we learn through our College of Engineering kind of courses and its technical classes along with technology, right? Whether that's the engineering innovation hub, whether that's learning how to use different computer aided design softwares, right? We combine our knowledge and technology to meet what society needs.

Alright, we're responsible for the way that we all live and the quality in which we live, right? And so those are two big elements of what we do. And again, engineering is present in everything that we do. So if you like to solve problems, if you like to make people's lives easier, right? Whether that be through a chemical lens or whether that be through a physics lens or infrastructure lens or computer science lens, that's kind of how we do things right? And we are continuing to improve. So engineers are never done right. We're never done with a problem. We're never done. Kind of innovating and finding it better and more useful solution. OK. And so.

What I would love to do is again, have Emily and Mike come back in and just kind of quickly go over why they are interested in engineering, right? Like what made them drawn to engineering in a sense, right? So let's listen to them and see what they say, why they picked engineering.

Yeah, I guess I'll start, so I was really lucky that I went to a high school that had a technology program, so I was using programs like SolidWorks, doing AutoCAD things using computer integrated manufacturing all in high school, but by no means did you need to have that experience to come to our team and studying the engineering program. It just sort of helped me understand why I wanted to be an engineer and that I even wanted to be an engineer.

And and I've been really lucky. As I said, I'm studying in the dual degree program, so I get to study in engineering as well as getting to be in arts and letters and that for me has really been allowed me to pursue dual interests that I have. And so you know as an engineer, I always, you know, it's it's very stereotypical. But I loved working with my hands. I love taking things apart, figuring, figuring out why they worked and that for me was really natural progression. And then the first year of engineering program. Oh boy.

I mean, I could I can hear you. So I yes.

OK, good good so sorry everyone. So yeah, the first year engineering program was great for me to be able to really dive deeper into what I love about engineering and explore the many different facets of what you can study here at nurding within engineering.

Yeah, for me engineers have always been something I wanted to do. I grew up around a lot of engineers. A lot of my uncle was my dad, my grandpa. They're all engineers, so it's kind of something that was like surrounded me. Like Boy Scouts, I'd always build the car for the Pinewood Derby. Things like that. So it was always I wanted to build. It was something I really did want to do, and then I kind of as I got into high school, I kind of fell in love with computers and realized like you have to build up your hands, which I do enjoy doing. I think is awesome, but I'm a little bit better at the typing. The computer kind of stuff as well, but that's kind of how I fell in love with engineering.

OK, I think I think Emily went off and then came back in so hopefully that will help along the way. But I think some people are hearing some and so I think that hopefully it all gets straightened out with technology. Otherwise we'll keep moving through and then and then. If and then we'll try to answer the question in the chat too. If they come up as well. So the next thing that I wanted to talk about is Wiener name right? What makes Notre Dame engineering kind of a little bit different? And I think one of the the major areas that we strive every day to do is we are looking at at helping students, you know.

Learn the skills they need to not only be innovators but also leaders in different areas, right? And also.

Have a focus on making people's lives better, right? Working for the greater good of humanity, and so these are just a couple pictures. The ones on the left is a club called Enable. They actually 3D print prosthetics for children and you can see one of the one of the people that we actually print a prosthetics for. Again, working with one of our students on the right is actually one of our students, John Sexton. He actually has been working on a project since he was actually in high school and he's kind of augmented here at her name on it's called Life Drive. It's a company that he started in her name and.

He's helped develop technology that is able to control wheelchair by eyesight, so you can look at the screen kind of and then help navigate where that wheelchair will go and it's helping his father, which is in the picture here, you know, have independence through his diagnosis, right? And so there's a lot of ways that we're engineering solutions, but there's oftentimes a sense of looking in for the greater good of humanity and how we can do that.

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The other big part that will say is that oftentimes it nodame. You'll often hear that we say that we're a powerful force for good, right? That is what we are. We are striving to do, and we do do this by we look for solutions to some of the grand challenges that we face, right? And that's across disciplines right? Where that the energy center looking for sustainability? Would that be working with the, you know, the School of Global Affairs and looking at trying to improve those areas that we can and international, in addition to what we have here in the United States, right? How can we make people's lives better and be a powerful force for good? How can we live a healthier lives and better connected lives?

And you'll see a lot of the research that we do. A lot of the the work that is done at this university is to that aim right? So I think that's that's a big part of what our mission at Nerd AIM is.

And I think the things that make no damn unique right from my vantage point of having come here for 13 years, is, I think what you'll find in her name is an educational community where our faculty are excited and engaged to be with our students, right? There are some other questions here that are in the chat that are related to kind of why one would pick Notre Dame over kind of a bigger state school. And I think part of that is is that our faculty comes under Dame because they also want to teach, right? Sometimes you'll hear folks that say at bigger schools, right? Sometimes it's all about research and so.

Bring in research monies to the university and I think what you'll find in her name is that our faculty are really interested in doing that. Really doing some kind of research, but also, they're also ready to teach and be engaged with our students.

Her name is also very collaborative environment. OK, where our students learn together, right? And so I think there's a lot that goes into that about how our students are engaging together in the community, right? Whether it's a residence halls, where your where you're with engineers, but also other disciplines right where you're kind of immersed in not only just engineering, but kind of thinking holistically about things. I think that also lends itself to be very collaborative in nature, right? Working across disciplines, working with other people. I think that's all part of how nerdom structure is actually designed, and I think the nerd.

You have a ton of different opportunities to augment your education, right? Whether that be some amazing study abroad locations, as we say, Mike's in Silicon Valley right now. Whether that be through research opportunities where that selects Emily is doing with multiple degree pathways, right? Through all the different extracurricular curricular activities that we'll talk about as well. So you know, you have invested faculty that we want you to succeed. You have a collaborative environment, and you can augment your education with a whole bunch of different kinds of perspectives and other kind of opportunities that also exist, right? And so with that, I would like to have Emily come back in.

And then I'll have Mike also come back in and say kind of explain why they picked Notre Dame and maybe they can touch on. Maybe if they were considering other kind of bigger schools. Kind of how that process went through for them.

Yeah, so I just served to start off so I was looking at some bigger state schools as well as some small liberal arts colleges. I was actually looking at a program where I would have done a three year or four year degree in physics and then gone and got in my masters at Columbia in engineering and for me one of the things that.

Really shocked me about nerding, which disclaimer I do have an older sibling who went here was also an engineer. He started computer science and economics through the same program that I'm doing but getting to see Nurding through his experiences and talking with other students. For me, what really really struck me which Professor Berlijn brought up is the collaborative environment. You know, everyone at Nurding wants you to succeed and that includes your peers, some programs and other schools might be really competitive. You know there's this push to get jobs where others might not get jobs.

All those things you know, nurding, we're here. We're here to learn together we're here to succeed together we're here to support one another that's within the classroom and outside and whatever you're passionate in going in supporting your friends at recitals or you know, sporting events. Maybe they're on a club sport team. You know all of those things really create this environment where it's about community. It's about being together and being better because we're together and and so that for me has really, you know.

Impacted my nerdy mix pyenson, something we always like to say is nerdy. Missing a four year decision. It's a 40 year decision. You're getting us for the rest of your life. This community that will support you not just on campus, but once you go out into the world and you know, continue on in your life after your four years here or however long you spend here. So that's a little bit about why I chose, nor do I don't know if Mike's coming back.

Yep, similar to Emily. I was also looking at some of the bigger engineering schools, but the first time I was able to visit Notre Dame, I kinda just fell in love with the campus.

And like I really felt like I was a part of the family, just like right when I got there to Notre Dame, I was visiting my program and like everyone just so they they they knew it was like a visitor and they were still like welcoming like they were like. Excited that I got in and I felt like I was a part of the family and then we said the 40 year decisions you're making. It really felt like a place I could fit in. So when I actually began applying for colleges.

That was like I I didn't wanna go to like Michigan or Purdue. Some of these other bigger Georgia Tech, those kind of big engineering schools. I felt like Notre Dame was the right spot for me. Yeah, engineering program was also great. I think underrated the times it's been amazing so far and even being here the collaborative environment has been fantastic and and being will not just me engineers but living a dorm with all kinds of different majors has been great as well.

Alright, perfect, so the next segment that I want to kind of go over a little bit is our first year engineering program. We're getting some questions related to some of that, so I'm going to dive into that. We also have a number of great questions about minors, double majors, things like that. We'll get to some of those things as well. I wanted to kind of explain our model for the first year, 'cause I think that a lot of different places have different models for their first years. I think it's helpful for us to kind of explain a little bit about how nerd aim does first year.

Right, so we First off we give all of our students the entire first year to discern your major. So when you come in, you have the ability to kind of think about what you are most interested in, what you want to study, and the coursework during that first year is a combination of kind of core curricular classes and technical classes, and I'll kind of show what that looks like in a bit. You do take a two engineering course, the design course in a computing course, and I'll explain a little bit about those as well as we go through. But really, it's about giving you a year to kind of start your engineering pathway, figure out what you're most interested in engineering.

Help you along that pathway and kind of explore those kind of opportunities. The only exception to that would be with the Mendoza College of Business. So those students are right. If you wanna Major Mendoza as part of the application process. There is a pre approval process to kind of get your spot saved in Windows. I guess in a sense if you start in engineering and you want to transfer in you do have to apply into the Mendoza College of Engineering. But if you are in the Mendoza College of Engineering you wanna try engineering out. You can do that as well so I just like to run to clarify that but again.

If you got into her name and you want to consider engineering, you can do that, right? And anybody can kind of come in and and have different opportunities to kind of explore what engineering looks like.

So in our in our first year curriculum you would start off with some Calculus 1.

And and we'll talk a little bit how AP credit works. It was a question early on, and then we'll talk about a little bit more about general chemistry. And that's that's kind of the first chemistry class that you would take the 1st science class and then you'd have that engineering design class. So you really have three kinds of engineering, math, science, kind of technical classes in that fall semester. You also have writing rhetoric, which is kind of a writing class. Very small 18 person writing class, and then the core curriculum will talk about that when you have another core curriculum class, and then Moro is kind of a course on kind of the first year experience overall in the spring semester you continue on in your match sequence. Right now you do.

In Calculus 2 you would take your next science class, which is typically physics. One you take an engineering computing class, which is a basically how to program, and then you'd also take another technical elective. So this is a class that you get to pick based on where your interest may lie. It's not a binding class in terms of you know you have to get specific class, but it does allow you to kind of have a chance to explore whatever you're most interested at the time, and then you take a university seminar and that university seminar can actually flip back and forth with the writing and rhetoric class. Those are are basically writing intensive reading intensive classes.

So we've mentioned a core curriculum bit and this is what the core curriculum looks like, right? It's it's six classes in liberal Arts, 2 Theology, 2 Philosophy, 2 writing class in the Morrow, first year experience. So at nerd aim you have to take all these classes at NER Dame. Alright, so.

You can't use AP credit to necessarily skip the liberal arts classes or the two theology philosophy classes. That being said, if you look at the classes, they are more generic in nature, especially the liberal arts ones. They don't say you have to take calculus one in her name, they have to take a quantitative reasoning class at her name, and so we often get a question of how can I use AP credit and you can use AP credit to satisfy the College of engineering requirements so you can use your AP credit to skip calc one if you have the right score to move on to say Calc 2, or if you have the right score in BC calculus.

Go to Cal three and there's enough other math classes. All right, there's enough other quantitative reasoning classes, which is liberal arts, one that you'll take down the road, right that you would naturally just satisfy the liberal arts. One requirement with say Calc 3 or linear algebra or differential equations. Things like that. Same thing with science and technology. If you have. If you earn a score that you can pass out of chemistry physics, one would be your science technology class, so you can use your math and science AP classes kind of move ahead in the curriculum a little bit.

And kind of skip those classes and skip those College of engineering requirements because you'll have more math and science, more quantitative reasoning, more science technology classes down the road where you can't necessarily use AP credits. Something like a history or social science class. Those classes are going to take at the new redeem level right at Nerd aim. You can use your AP class to take a more advanced history class or more advanced social science class, but you're gonna take those classes at noon today, so that's a little bit more how AP credit works. So you can use it in the math and sciences. There's not as much of an ability to use it.

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You know, in the historical science, unless you're still going to take those classes at another name.

So I wanted to share a little bit more about our design course again in the fall semester. You take a design course right? It really focuses on the engineering design process. This past year we 3D printed valves, right? So they got to learn how to use computer aided design software to actually model something in 3D. They got to then 3D print valves at a multiple components, assemble them, test them to see if they were able to hold a closed position in their open position right? And so there's interdesign. They get to use the engineering innovation hub. There's a lot that goes into that first year that is meant to show the different tools that they can use.

Right, give people exposure to working in project teams. Teach them how to work in a project team, right? I think sometimes students come to Notre Dame or they leave their high school experience thinking that project team just mean do it all yourself and trust no one else and we don't want that to be how project teams work, right? Engineering requires us to work in project teams, so we want to show them how to make functioning groups and get hands on exposure to kind of engineering problems, right? So it's a very interactive semester 1 where we again we teach Excel. We teach computer to design and they're really learning how to design and think through processes like an engineer.

The next one that we have is our is our programming course OK, and so the programming course is also a computing course, and that course really focuses on the engineering design process, right? And So what? We're really focusing on here? Sorry, that was the fall semester, the fall semester engineer design process. The computing course is really the programming process, right? How do you think programmatically, right? So we do teach MATLAB. We do teach Python where we do teach a couple different languages, but we want to think about how do you think programmatically about something.

We used a flipped classroom which features active learning. As part of that process, right? So we actually have them watch videos before coming to class, so allow us to do actual examples during class and that again it helps students understand and learn the material quite effectively. We don't have any prior program experience requirements, so if you if you haven't programmed before, that's not a problem. The majority of our students still come in having never programmed before. That being said, we do have different pathways for students depending on their prior programming experience. OK, and so if you had a lot of prior program experience, there's different pathways. So that way you kind of are taking.

Again, still learning Python And Matlab. Still learning the fundamental concepts right, but I just had a little bit of a different pace and breath, whereas if you had not programmed before, we want to make sure that you feel comfortable and in the pace that helps you and all majors need programming so everybody will kind of take programming as they work through their first year in their name.

In the last part that I want to talk about about the first year engineering program is our discernment piece. So we want to make sure that you were able to kind of understand what the different disciplines look like. So during that fall semester we actually have all of our students get exposure to each engineering discipline through an overview of each department, hands on activities from each department, and we even show what about 10 or 12 alumni are doing with every department. She'll get exposure for each of these departments understand kind of what is going on in each of these different disciplines.

From there, the students have the ability to to kind of do more research into what they are most interested in. So we have alumni panels. We have alumni come back and talk. We have student panels letting students learn from other students about what they found most interesting. We have lab tours where they can see kind of the different lab environments that we could work in within those disciplines. We also have students go in and complete a series of engineering explorations which includes lunch with lunch with an upper division student. So we I've organized over 100 lunches last year with between.

100 between first years and Upper Division students they can go to club meetings and we have calendars with all these different events on them, so we really want to make sure that they are exposing themselves to all the different disciplines and learn more as they're working through this again, I think the interesting thing is again.

Look at the retention right about 85 to 90% of students that are trying an engineering course. They might have even been designated as engineer when they started, but they try an engineering course out.

Typically between about 15. Sorry 40 sorry 85 to 90% of them are going to say in engineering, but the 40 to 50% number is the people that are changing their major right so we retain the majority of students and we you know if you look at the ones that are declaring engineering we retain those at almost 95% but about 40 to 50%.

Of our students are changing their major, and that's 'cause they're going through this assignment process. Learning what they are interested in, right and then and then. Some of them end up changing their major, and that's not a problem. We want them to change their major if they want to study something different because we want them to be passionate about what they're studying, and that's kind of the whole. The whole point to this discernment piece. As part of this first year, so I wanna let Emily and Mike talk a little bit about their discernment, peace, their discernment, exposure, kind of where they came in. If they changed their major. Again, I changed from architecture to civil engineering.

During that first year, right? Some of the students that come in. Maybe they knew that they want to do a certain major just end up being more confident of that major selection over that first year as well, right? And we see that in the confidence over that that first year, so I'll let Emily start off by explaining a little bit more about. Kind of how she went through her discernment process.

Yeah, so I absolutely loved the experience of getting to meet with alumni. UM, when I went home on fall break, that was actually a great time for me. As I said, the Notre Dame alumni are amazing and I have a local club back home that just has so many people who are really eager to talk to students. And so I got to talk to a bunch of different engineers about their experiences and having to do it for the class as part of an assignment really pushed me to talk to more and more people more than I even needed to.

Yes, I hear you.

Just because it really gave me a great perspective on all the different things that I could do within engineering and then in with in getting into the rally program, I'd actually thought about joining the rally program. Can someone just let me know they can hear me Professor Bartolini or Michael? I saw a note again that someone can't hear me. OK, thank you.

Thank you, OK so yeah, so I talked to lots of people and then sort of getting into the rally program. I'd come in thinking I would study something else in the rally program I was looking at like something along the lines of peace studies or poli SCI or something like that and I didn't actually really get into the rally program until my junior year or the summer between my sophomore and junior year where I had the opportunity to take a summer class and drawing and I knew that I really wanted to.

Hans, my sketching skills. That was something that we gotten into in one of my 3D modeling classes within engineering, but feel like my stretching was good enough. That was something I was really wanting to get better at and that let me talk to upperclassmen. Professors always know someone you can talk to if you're interested. So all of that sort of pushed me towards getting into the rally program, which is a really simple process used to write a statement about why you want to be.

In the program and then you know, sort of layout your course load for the five years, making sure that you can finish all the classes in time. At one point I was actually engineering premed so I also know a little bit about that. If anyone has any questions I can say I took or go. I actually really enjoyed it. It was a really interesting class at a great professor so that is also quite possible if that's something you're interested in. But yeah, I'll leave off to Mike.

Thank you Emily. It's time for my certain process. I did come in a pretty set on computer science, but uh, the whole process kind of really gave me like.

The confirmation that Andrew kind of said I have a lot where like I knew I wanted to computer science after because I was sort of looking for something that would might maybe push me away from it towards another major. But as we went through all of the panels the tours meeting with professors upperclassmen even like the in class activity that we would do everything just solidified that I want to do computer science. That's kind of what's for me. And the thing that I will succeed the most at.

I did like the process of whole as well. 'cause you got to work with other students that are discerning other majors, I I get to make friends outside of computer science, get to make mechanical engineering friends, electrical engineering all the different disciplines. So I really enjoyed that about this tournament. I think it's.

Great for either if you're fully certain what you want to do or if you have no clue what you wanna do at all.

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Alright, I've been trying to answer a few of the questions in the chat. While we're going to try to get everybody's questions answered, so I apologize for that little pause there. There was a couple questions about AP credit and what the scores are needed for that, so I threw those in the chat. There's also some questions about dual enrollment credit or transfer credit. If you take kind of that at the high school level, and I put the link on on on how that works, it's a very individual process because we have to look at the syllabus of what you took and then then the person or the college that that kind of administers the class you want to replace that with.

Past look at that as well so it can be a very individual process, and so I wanted to kind of just mention that before before kind of proceeding. So the next bit that I want to talk about is our College of Engineering as a whole.

OK, and so I first wanted to share kind of the general size of our different disciplines and so overall we have about 440 to 400 and 71st year students that end up picking the College of Engineering right? And so that puts us about 22 to 23% of kind of a graduating class. That number has grown over the last decade or so. You know, when I was the first unit, probably was closer to 10 or 12% of Notre Dame was engineers. And again, we've grown that number about 33% of our engineering students are female, right? And that's about much higher. It's about 10 or 12% higher than the national average, which usually sits in the low 20%.

And and that number is it appears that it will be growing. That again, is the sophomore class and the first year class as a as a percentage is closer to 38%, so we hope to keep growing that number as well. Our largest discipline is computer science.

Up next is mechanical engineering and both those are a little over 20 or around 25. A little over 25%. Chemical engineering is next at about 12%, along with aerospace. Electrical engineering is usually in the sophomore class, just shy of 10%, and then we have an environmental engineering, computer engineering and civil engineering. All that are about between 3 and 7%. So that's again, that's of the sophomore class. Just gives you a little size of the scale. We'd also have an environmental engineer, sorry. Environmental Earth sciences major, and that one only usually has.

A couple students in any given year.

Up next, I want to talk briefly about how you can augment your degree. So how you can do things like double majors, dual degrees. There's often a lot of questions about how these processes work, so I wanted to kind of cover some of this as we're going along.

Alright, the first just dual degrees, so a dual degree is when you get 2 full diplomas from Notre Dame. OK, when you're actually getting, you're actually completing 2 full degrees, so the 1st is a way that you can combine engineering with science or liberal arts. This is similar to Emily is doing when she's combining liberal arts, so you get a BS in engineering and a BS in science or engineering and uh, in liberal arts typically takes five years to complete this program 'cause you're looking at about 40. Sorry 30 to 45 extra credit hours, but oftentimes will see sometimes people looking at doing things like music, maybe industrial design, theology, philosophy.

Maybe you know, applied in computational mathematics and statistics, maybe international relations, political science, things like that. There are a few ways you can combine engineering and business in a dual degree sense. The first, the BS and engineering and then a Masters of Business Administration. This one is a very competitive program because you're applying in your junior year against the normal MBA cohort. So you are applying it's kind of a full cohort experience there. And so again we usually have about three to six students a year that will do that. You do take a lot of your MBA class.

In your 4th year, so you are kind of leaving the people that you were in all your engineering class but behind a little bit so you have to be a little more independent, kind of complete that program. But some of our students really want to be able to finish at MBA and their engineering degree within five years. Another option is to do a BS and engineering and a Master of Science and Management so that one you actually apply for your senior year. You then we would complete that in 11 months following graduation. So it's still five years. But you're kind of finish out with your cohort as an undergraduate before you start the MSN program.

On both of those two with business, you actually have to apply for again during your time in her name, so they're not guaranteed based on your undergraduate admission.

You can always do. Also do a double major if you're interested. This typically takes less time than a dual degree because you're getting 1 degree, but you're having a primary major, which would be engineering and a secondary major, which would be something outside of engineering when you're looking at this, you do have to make sure that you're finding a secondary major. OK, you just can't simply find 2 primary majors right, so you have to look at the different colleges and schools that are not engineering here to find something that is offered in those as a secondary major. So like, for example, theology typically is applied and computational mathematics and statistics are.

At the kiosk School of Global Affairs, they have a secondary major and you know as well, so there's some other places around campus that will have a secondary major that you could pursue. I do like to say that it's incredibly rare for that secondary major to be an engineering degree. Typically that we're seeing students have their primary major be their engineering degree, and then they find the secondary major. Outside of engineering we have at a few students that do computer science and electrical engineering, I believe there was one or two that are finished and a couple other ones that are trying to finish, but it is more rare to kind of do that process.

There are other engineering minors you could always pursue a minor outside of the College of Engineering. It really depends upon in the timeframe of doing this.

About a little bit about kind of how in how much AP credit you come in with, how do you use your summers? But there are different opportunities to do engineering minors or other minors and still finish within four years. We've actually just this this year. We actually they actually just changed some of the rules on double counting, so there is some ability to kind of they're making it easier for students to be able to kind of take on these minors in a sense. So one of the first minors we have is bio engineering. So bio engineering. It's great for the students that are looking at kind of doing more of a biomedical pathway.

So it's a great opportunity for the students and interested in that to kind of pursue some bio engineering classes so they can be ready if they want to do something like prosthetics. They could do mechanical engineering plus bio engineering if they wanted to do something like protein folding, they can do chemical engineering plus bio engineering. We also have computational engineering energy engineering, energy studies, engineering, corporate practices, essentially a business minor, but it's administered the College of Engineering. You take 2 integrated business and engineering classes along with an economics Class A finance class in accounting class over your four years.

And that makes up the engineering corporate practice minor. We also have environmental earth sciences and then resiliency and standability.

So those are some of the other minds we have out of the College of Engineering.

Again, they typically require additional classes, but again, some of that changing with how we're able to double count classes, right? So I don't know at this point. Maybe if I if Emily wanted to add anything about kind of her experience with this, Mike. If you want to add any experience about kind of picking your major, we talked about a little bit before, but before we jump into the next section on study abroad, I kind of wanted to give Emily and Mike a chance if they wanted to comment a little bit about kind of how they picked their major kind of what their experiences may be with friends about how many you know what minors they find very popular on campus and things like that.

Yeah, I think definitely among my class, especially within mechanical engineering. Mechanical engineering were somewhat in the way our curriculum is set up. We're kind of known as jacks of all trades. We do cover a lot of different areas and a lot of people end up either studying engineering corporate practice or at least taking some classes and ensuring corporate practice so it allows them to get sort of that business and entrepreneurship side of things. And so I think that's really popular.

I do have a friend in the MBA program who will be here for a fifth year to finish up his engineering degree.

And I would say something that for me that's been really helpful is the fact that you don't necessarily need to study these minors, but that these minors mean that we have so many elective options. And that's something that's really stuck with me. During my experience picking electives. Is that because all of these minors are offered, you have the availability to study all of these different things within these areas. So, although like you can't major in bio engineering, and there are a lot of different electives that you can take that go along with that, and then again, like the rally program.

It's been really easy for me to get into. Yeah, I don't know if my kids anything Dad.

Yeah, just second, the uh, the electives like they come from the minors are definitely awesome, because you can kind of explore other stuff without fully committing to taking that minor UM, as well as engineering cover practice. And that's very popular, especially for engineers. I want again, maybe consulting or move into a more of a management kind of roll up. I know some other sort of dual degree stuff that some of this years do. Economics is a big one. I have a few friends of computer science that do that, especially as a kind of looking more towards the consulting, or maybe in a finance route.

Alright, awesome, so we're going to keep moving through. We're gonna try to keep going quickly so that we can try to get through these next topics pretty quickly and I'll let Mike and Emily expand on it. We will. We will stay through the end of the hour if you wanna stay with us on some of these different topics. I know some of the things that you're interested in are coming up here soon so we do have a lot of different study abroad opportunities. Typically that if you're doing it for a semester that would happen during the junior year. The locations do very much depend upon the major that you select, so different majors can go different places right, but some of the common locations include Perth, Australia, Dublin.

Funded in Rome and so those are again individual majors and go different places, but those are some of the more common ones that we see a lot of our students go to. Mike is in the Silicon Valley program, which is again and offered in the spring semester of your junior year, so the focus is in the Second Valley program is on computer science and engineering, and there's sometimes electrical engineers will also join that process in that program. But it consists of doing a part time internship while you're in the Silicon Valley area, along with taking Silicon Valley based courses. So it's a really cool opportunity for the students.

Interested in those, you know, computer science and computer engineering, electrical engineering to kind of pursue those opportunities. We'll talk a little bit about internships in a little bit, but that's kind of the only kind of Co-op that I'm kind of aware of at Nodame innocence. And then there's also study abroad during the summer, so we also have a number of programs, almost a third of our first year students will go abroad after their first year to one of the locations in London, and I'm sorry one of the locations in Europe, London is a very popular one, along with Alcoi, Spain, Rome, Dublin and then Berlin are the five different options, and they would rather take two engineering classes.

That are more general. I took patent law at integrated business and engineering. Or you take a general engineering class in a court curriculum class. There are other some specialized programs too, so there's some for the resiliency instability program in New Zealand. There's also some for chemical engineers in London after their sophomore year, but there's a lot of other opportunities to go abroad in the summer, so if you don't want to go abroad during a semester, you don't want to miss one of your 8 semesters in her name. Or if you just don't like the places that you can go, as as a particular major, a lot of our students will also leverage the study abroad during the summer. It also get some classes out of the way, free up some space in your class.

Your schedule for maybe some minors. There is a cost associated with this, but there is financial aid also available for that as well. So I think Mike maybe wants to comment a little bit more about kind of his experience with Silicon Valley programming kind of study abroad and I'll turn it over to him.

Yep, so I've been in the Silicon Valley program for about 3 weeks now. 3 1/2 weeks come. It's been amazing so far. I I'm just about to find an internship for this semester, but it's really cool. It's a cohort experience, so we kind of do a lot of things together. There's thirty one of us here, and it's not just like taking classes and doing internship. We do a lot of trips around. It's like I'm Valley area and we have to talk to professionals in the industry, which is very good for computer science networking. Things like that for other study abroad. I have a lot of friends this semester that are in London, Rome.

Dublin, Spain and they've all loved it so far, so I would definitely recommend trying to study abroad even for the summer I I've heard it's a great program as well.

Right, so the next one that we talk about is undergraduate research, and so there's a lot of opportunity to do undergraduate research in her name. Our professors want to get involved with undergraduate research, and they want you to be, you know, studying in their labs. I typically say that students have to be a little bit proactive and the reason why I say that is because you want good synergy between what you are studying and what your what the advisor studying. So you have to kind of find people that are studying what you are passionate and interested about and reach out to them to be kind of start those those synergies, and in that process, right and so.

It does require you to kind of be a little bit proactive, but we do have a lot of students that do undergraduate research by their senior year. Over 90 students are engaged in undergraduate research, right? And so there's a lot of different opportunities for it. I think it's there's so many different experiences. I kind of want to let Emily and Mike just talk about their experience as part of undergraduate research. But again, there's so many different modalities during the summer during the semester for credit for pay that you kind of engage in research, so I'll turn it over to Emily and let her kind of explain her experience with undergraduate.

Yeah, so I actually you do have to be proactive, although it's kind of funny. I sort of fell into my undergraduate research. I was this past spring this spring of 2021. I was supposed to be studying in Galway, Ireland at the National University of Ireland, Galway and in applying to that program to study abroad. I had gotten talking to a professor here on campus. Professor neighbor who works in bio engineering and he.

Had actually been at the university for three years and returned to the USA a few years ago, and so he has experienced the university and in talking with him about city abroad and him hearing that I was interested in bio engineering, he asked if I would be interested in working in his lab after you know a 30 minute conversation over a cup of coffee. So definitely like getting into research is not complicated. It sounds really intimidating and scary, but professors are super interested. You know, if you do seem to mash in your interest.

Align with what the professors are doing that really just can work out well, so I did things mostly. Actually sort of on the mechanical design side of things I designed in CAD, a testing apparatus that was then used for testing bone samples in applying mechanical loads. So it's called a bioreactor. It looks like a cylinder. It can hold four bone samples at once and then mechanical load is applied to those bone samples.

And so I designed that my first semester in research and then my second semester in research. I actually the piece had been made, but there were other similar pieces that need to get made that would be used in order to integrate it into the testing apparatus. So I actually got to go into the engineering innovation hub here on campus and manufacture some of the pieces that were then used within the lab. So that was really a cool meeting of resources between doing research and then also getting to use the engineering innovation hub.

Here on campus, which just has a wild amount of tools, it's just an amazing resource, yeah?

Yeah, I've been involved in research for almost two years now. Come kind of similar situation after the my freshman semester. We went home for COVID and I was able to like find a research position with Professor Computer science, doing a drones for emergency response. I've really loved the project I've been involved with it ever since and it was really cool 'cause I got to touch a lot of different parts of the project so front end back end web development. Things I gotta work on video streaming from drones. I got to work on the actual drone.

Autopilot themselves.

And I didn't think I was gonna love research, 'cause I'm not really like a writing papers kind of guy, but I really haven't had to. It's more about software engineering kind of role to assist a research project, so if that kind of would put you away from research, there's much more doing research than just the writing papers, publishing, editing things like that. So definitely recommend, as Emily said, you have to put yourself out there a little bit to reach our professors. But there are. They're all like really open to having undergrads help with the project.

In research is just to add research is also great if you're thinking about grad school, which like don't panic if you're not. But if you get to a point in college where you think you might want to get your masters or PhD, UM, research is really involved in that, so it will you'll spend a lot of your time in your Masters or PhD programs doing research. So undergrad is a great way to tip. Dip your toes and find out if you would be happy spending that much time doing that. For example, like discovered, I didn't love research that much. I loved who I worked with, but I just didn't enjoy the process.

So that helped rule out grad school from me, or at least engineering grad school.

Alright great, I want to make sure we get to one of the I know. I think this was advertised until 8:45 again. We'll stay until 9:00 o'clock to kind of answer all the questions. One of them that's very much one of the questions I think is coming up a lot. So I'm gonna skip around on the slides a little bit is kind of what looks like after Damon so never Dame publishes a lot of data. If you had the first destination data nerd name you can find out all the companies we send our graduates to and kind of you know where they go, kind of what graduate schools they go to. The vast majority of the College of Engineering goes to Industry watch a little over 80% of our of our sins go down.

Industry about 10% of the class 1019 went on to kind of continue their education with a smaller 1/2 to 3% went into military and service the 2% or so that we're seeking employment. That typically goes down to about 0% after six months of graduation. All right. So they are going a lot of places, either. Some of the companies undergraduates to in terms of.

The the different internship opportunities we do have a lot of students that are engaging in internship opportunities right after kind of each of their summers, so they use their summers to do their kind of internship opportunities. So we find about 25% of our students after their first year doing internships. Again, that's I think that's a really high number considering the fact that we have more common first engineering program and we have so many of our students go abroad that a lot that over a third of them are kind of pursuing that opportunity after their sophomore year. The number of people doing internships rises to over 50% of our students just a little over 50%.

And again, about 18% of them are going abroad after that summer, and then there are still more. They're doing research, and after there's there's junior years between their junior and their sophomore year, or about 90 or more percent of our students are engaging in some kind of an internship opportunity, so I don't know if if Emily and might want to try to talk a little bit about kind of how they've used their summers and kind of kind of getting those experiences. But but our students who do use their summers as part of that opportunity to learn and get more internship opportunities and experience.

Yes, so I'll start. So this summer after my freshman year, I actually did service through a program here on campus and so I got to work at a pregnancy Resource Center down in Florida for eight weeks, which was an amazing experience. I have a lot of friends who they didn't study abroad, who did service, and I think we all really, really enjoyed it this summer after my sophomore year, I was actually supposed to be doing a service project in Uganda, but because of COVID it did get cancelled and so I actually ended up taking two classes.

One through Notre Dame and one through a local Community College, and I really enjoyed that. I actually really look at as a blessing in disguise, 'cause that's also when I decided to join the Riley program and so that was really well worth my time. And then this past summer actually worked for a startup studio. That one of the founders is actually a nerd. Mellum from the 1980s, she started mechanical engineering and she had posted on the nerdy M Job Board. It's called handshake.

Said that, you know she posted the listing I sent in my resume and got an email a week later saying, hey, would you mind talking? I didn't even realize that it was really interviewing for it because it was just such a casual conversation. Great to talk to a nerd in Milam, and so that's how I ended up in that role, which is great because they actually had that previous winter last winter. They actually had two unpaid nerd interns, and so I was able to talk to those interns.

About their experiences before I went in and I did work remotely, but I did get to actually go to their offices and Indianapolis at one point during the summer, and so that was a really cool experience for me. A little bit on the entrepreneurship side of things, but also because it was a really small startup and they're working with other startups for me. I did a lot of things that I wouldn't have done it. A big company, and I think it gave me a lot of experience and empowered me.

Where I was doing all of the market research for one of their perspective products and I got to confidently say like this is my recommendation about you know whatever market, whatever idea that you have and you know they took my word on what I was saying in my expertise. So that was amazing experience. And then this summer this upcoming summer I'll actually be interning with Stryker in Kalamazoo, MI, which I'm super excited about and I'll be in their emergency.

Equipment design space. So I'm very excited for that, and that was actually I got that through the network as well. I interviewed with them on a whim during the career fair. It was a 1015 minute interview and you know, a few weeks later I had an internship. So definitely the career fair was a really big resource for me, connecting me with companies. And, you know, getting my resume in front of people.

As I mentioned before, I after my freshman year I did research on the drone project audited all remotely because of Kovid was forced everyone to vote. That gave me a lot of great experience really helped me internship further along. So last summer between my sophomore and junior year, I was lucky to get in touch with Google in a first and second year program. Working in a systems infrastructure team on like networking packets and like debugging tool for that and that was really very experienced. Gotta work with a lot of great engineers as well as a another sophomore student.

And I'm I'm returning there next summer. I'll be working. I'm in Seattle for 12 weeks from May to August on the database esteem. So more on the cloud side as well, but.

No rain is been great in helping me get connections. 'cause I feel like the connections that I've made kind of help push along the process to even get an interview as well as some clubs like cracking or there's a cracking the code interview club where kind of helps you get practice on technical interviews before you actually go into them, which is a huge part of actually getting to the job. So Notre Dame has been a huge resource for kind of helping me to get to it where I am.

Awesome alright. Well I'm gonna go we're gonna jump back a little bit and I wanna go to engineering organizations as well. And so I want to talk a little bit there. There is a ton of engineering organizations that you can get involved in her name. There are some college level ones like the Engineering Leadership Council that puts on events like Engineering Week or the engineering industry days or different kind of career fairs. We have a lot of different student chapters of professional society. So like I mentioned, I'm the advisor of the Notre Dame chapter of American side of Engineers, right? And so there's a lot of different those that go around. We also have a lot of different design competition teams.

So we actually have a robotic football team or or Notre Dame. So we love our football. We're engineers. We love robotic kind of elements, so we actually created a robotic football team. We're one if I think about four to six schools in the area that actually have a full robotic team that actually we have. We hosted national championship each year. It's a full 1111 robotic football team. There's a rocket team that actually designs a rocket through NASA's Foster competition. The rocket actually goes up. It lets launched about a mile up. It comes down through a series of parachutes and and kind of has a number of other challenges that it has to pursue.

As part of its its conduct, competition rules and guidelines, we also have a club called Concrete Canoe which actually designed the 20 foot long concrete canoe. And actually.

We just casted at this past weekend, then they'll go ahead and we'll, you know, we'll finish it off. Or when we actually bring it to the conference and Rohit, but there's a whole boatload different opportunities. There's a Demon entertainment association that actually helps folks get jobs and kind of careers in the theme entertainment kind of industry. We have a question about formula SAE. We actually. Yes, we have formula SAE we actually have two different types. One that is hybrid and one that's more traditional kind of engine. And so there's a whole boatload of clubs and organizations that I can't just say. It's not just three of them. There's a whole list of them.

But maybe if Emily and Mike even want to, you know, you know 30 to 45 seconds to kind of explain a little bit more about the clubs they're involved in that campus and kind of show the breadth of these clubs.

Yeah engineering wise so I have gotten involved in the society, Foreman engineers so any girls out there, uhm, you actually once you permission our game sometime in the summer you'll probably receive like a little packet. That's a newsletter that they always send out just sort of to like welcome girls to the engineering program, congratulate you, serve help, you get to know campus, get the lowdown before you arrive which that, for me, was awesome.

I'm sorry, I've you know, worked with me and participate in different events with them. They've been great. You know, creating experiences. So my freshman year I actually got to go visit a Consulting Group called DMC in Chicago and have got to see what consulting with an engineering like. They're truly engineering consulting. So that's you know, not exactly the consulting that nerding students always know sought for me, it was really interesting.

On and you know I've gotten to participate in with other events with them, such as. You know, the women in engineering host a ski trip. At least they try to every year at the end of winter break. And so I did that my sophomore year and went up to Michigan and skied. It helped me to get to know a lot of other girls within the program who I might not otherwise have met. So yeah, those are the two. The few big things I've done.

Yeah, for some of the organizations have been involved with the CS for Good Club, does a lot of service projects. I was able to do some stuff with actually a health company kind of working on their database helping store their information. There's a lot of different projects for that group and they accept all members they can, so you only experience either. It's kind of a thing you can jump right into and start doing. I've also done SIBC, which is actually a business club, but they have a STEM division. She gotta get to work on a STEM consulting type project. I was actually able to work on MBA project.

Regarding like fanning engagement with Deloitte, which was very cool, and I've also been involved with student government, which might not seem very engineering base, but they have a technology department which I was ahead of my sophomore year, so I got to leave a lot of like technology initiatives around campus. I'm kind of look at the student body, see what needs they have technologically and try to get those pushed through to administration.

Alright, awesome, uh. The next one that we wanna talk a little bit about is service. So we mentioned this beginning that you know engineering at Nerd AIM is meant to be a force for good and so there's ways you can do service at the local level all the way through the international level. So we have the Center for civic Innovation which helps produce in the local South Bend community, whether that's a revitalization of the booming Creek ecosystem like the picture shows or they even do like letter remediation or other kind of projects in the South Bend area. We also have a group the group called Enable that 3D print prosthetics for children so again they work all the way through nationally.

They work on different projects for different folks around the country. We also have a group called NDC that actually designs, builds and designs, fundraisers and builds a pedestrian footbridge like the one shown in that picture to help connect truly isolated community to economic opportunities, healthcare opportunities and education opportunities. And so they've they've done properties in Central America, South America, and even Africa too. And so I know Emily does some service work that is not related, not necessarily in engineering, but sometimes it's you know she's using her engineering skills, so I let her talk about that kind of service opportunity. How you can engage in service at her name.

And then if Mike wants to talk a little bit more about his work with CS for Good and other kind of service events as well, I think that would be kind of show that again, our students are finding service in and out of engineering. But I think all of our engineers are called to do some service and and help you know the community out or that be near or far.

Yeah, so I haven't done service that's permanently within engineering, but our Center for social concerns is amazing at connecting with service opportunities, and some of them are actually in conjunction with some of these clubs. So my freshman year, as I said, I did a service program down in Florida and so the different sites that you can go to our all sponsored by nodame clubs and all of those service opportunities, or some of them have engineering components to them, so some of them might be working with like Habitat for Humanity.

Or other groups like that that might be more construction based and again have some entering components to them. Or maybe it's, you know, teaching science and math and other stem topics too young school age children. Those are all opportunities, particularly within the domestic program, which is the SSLP program, and then the ISLP program, which is the International Summer Service Summer Service Learning Program. Actually many of the sites that they have abroad actually work with and seed.

And engineers Without Borders, so many of those sites are actually sponsored by clubs and through the SLP program. The clubs will send club members abroad for part of the summer to work at the sites. And so although the site that I was going to was not engineering based, many of my friends were headed to engineering sites or we're supposed to go to engineering sites, whether it was working at bridges or wells that they had been fund raising and planning for.

Throughout the year, so lots of cross connectivity between the College of Engineering and these opportunities to do service, whether it's in the US or abroad.

Yes, I mentioned I was in the CS for good club. What I worked on was like there's a lot of different projects that have a lot of websites for nonprofits. One of the opportunity that you know some people involved in our, UM, the South Bend Code School, as well as our local high school teaching code classes. So kind of getting kids in high school exposed to software engineering like early on and I kind of getting interested in kind of push them into the field. And there's also some work that is international working with them. There's a surgery center in Guatemala that some students work on as well.

And then some non engineering service stuff I got involved with Special Olympics this year which is some service more than local area. It's really cool to kind of able to make that impact with people who live in South Bend in that area. I know even some.

Like people related to me like we're kind of in the program as well, but it's definitely a really cool experience. You kind of get to meet a lot of great people and do good. It's a. It's a nice thing to kind of do service as well.

Alright, awesome, so I'm gonna wrap up and we have a couple two questions in the chat and then we'll get to those and then we'll wrap up our hour. We also have a number of other opportunities on campus. We have the engineering innovation hub which is a brand new facility.

It just opened in August, but at the state of the art facility, there's so much additive manufacturing. There's a laser cutter.

Water jet cutters. Metal 3D printers. Just a whole bunch of opportunities there. They students can also get involved in the idea center and start their own businesses. Like I said that that wasn't student John Sexton who started his life. Drive company is partly through the Idea Center as well, so there's a lot of different opportunities there that you can use to. Maybe if I could have Emily, if if you want you take one of these two questions and then I'll let Michael take the other one so you either can talk about how easy it is to get into classes that you want, or you can talk about how you use your AP credit and if.

If you have any advice on on doing if you felt like you like using your hypocrite was an OK idea, so I'll you take whichever one you want, and then I'll might take the other one.

Yeah, I'll actually take the AP credit one. I was going to take electives, but I actually have a great AP credit story. UM, so I was not going to use my AP credit when I got to nerdy, I was convinced I wasn't ready for college classes, yadda yadda yadda. And my older brother actually told me because he had gone through the program and I tested into Calc 3. He was like you do not want to take Calc 2. It is pretty hard like he's like take the win, move on. And so I did choose to do that and I did that with calculus.

And physics I had taken Physics C in high school and that also has been a huge blessing for me because it got me ahead which gave me the opportunity to meet people not in my year. And it also allowed me to do Riley the Riley program in a much more relaxed manner. Last semester I took 12 credits. Next semester I'm taking 13 credits. Most Riley students would be taking 18 or 20 credits a lot of semesters if they don't have. Sort of, you know.

That advantage is having AP credits, so I would definitely say like if you have the opportunity, it's a good idea. If you can test out using either the entrance exams or AP credit.

Yes, we offer. We often say trustee exams, right? We've studied the fact that the exams help, so I would definitely Echo Matt and then Mike, if you want to talk a little bit about how hard it is to get the classes electives you want.

Can your experience in picking classes?

Yeah, so the way we do classes in her name is that seniors pick first, then juniors and sophomores and first years and I haven't had too much difficulty yet. Usually you're able to reach out to your advisor to kind of.

Open a spot up in a class. I've actually one class. It's not engineering related at all that I just emailed a psychology professor who was running the class was like, hey, this sounds really interesting. Can I get in this class and they were able to open a spot up for me? So it's kind of a lot of times if you ask they can make room for you. Obviously there are times when a really popular class and all the seniors might fill up. Then they'll take you, don't get a spot as a junior or sophomore.

This matter didn't really have any issues because our curriculum for the Silicon Valley semester is pretty set in stone.

But I know that a lot of like not many kids had that many issues in computer science. I'm there working on getting their electives to be like more robust, kind of encompass more subjects as well as take more students in each class. So I haven't had many issues. I'm not sure if Emily has at all.

Yeah no. They uhm have been really good. I mean especially within engineering like you have to be in the class that you have to be in. So in that respect it's not difficult in design. Very similar to what Michael mentioned with getting into electives. If you know the professors or even if you just email them, oftentimes they can get spots open for you. It's just about like a lot of things that we've talked about. It's about being proactive and taking the initiative, so definitely they're there to help. And, you know, encourage your interests.

Alright, awesome and then we had one other question that was from the beginning about kind of picking your name over some other schools. I think we talked about that a little bit earlier, I would say.

Rankings aren't always everything. I'll put that out there as my own, like two cents. Sometimes rankings are based off things that are easily quantifiable, which are research dollars or a number of publications, none of which this may impact your your child's education, right? And so I would say that that it's hard to quantify student happiness, which is sometimes why some rankings don't quantify that right? I think that you oftentimes hear that you know. I would always say that name is kind of a gem in terms of you know, the rankings don't don't do it justice, I think.

In a large sense, because again, rankings based off of how many faculty? How much research do your you're getting? How many publications you are, but I think our faculty are spending time doing that, but also spending a lot of time, teaching and liking the teaching process. And I think those are some of the things that set new name apart. I think the residence life and how kind of the collaborative nature is kind of embedded in everything that we do. I think is another kind of area where kind of were a little different than some of those other schools, so I don't know. I think that may be a place that we can let Emily in. My kind of if they have any other kind of two cents on that piece. We can kind of let them kind of close out.

The session tonight I also just wanted before we close off. I also want to thank Emily and Mike for taking, you know, over an hour of their time this evening to kind of give some input it, you know, they're very busy. Both of my. I know that because they they are, they're doing a lot of things here on campus, so I appreciate them taking an hour of their night to kind of come out and help kind of answer some more questions.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, so uh, yeah I would just reiterate everything fester, Barlinnie said. I think you know he sort of made a comment about number of publications, research dollars. You know, there's often this concept, especially when you get into a stem field like engineering where there's the oh our professors just teaching so that they can do research. And that's something that's always struck me about. Reading is how genuine the professors are and their passion for teaching, and that I think has transformed my college experience.

And just made it so much more enjoyable. And so yeah, that that would just be one of my little points about why I love nerd aim and what's made it such a wonderful experience is genuinely everyone from students to faculty to staff, just as excited to be here, excited to be in the classroom, you know, help everyone learn and achieve whatever their goals are.

Yeah, second all of that, you know, names always just felt like home to me.

Like I feel like a part of a family there. I also kind of enjoy it. There's not frats. I would never really would have been in the frat culture, really. I think the dorm culture kind of fills that social need without kind of any left extra bad stuff that might happen with that. I also think some people are a little concerned about the ranking where it's like.

Top companies aren't gonna look at Notre Dame students because it's not a top school, which is completely false. I think the network is probably the best in the world. At least one of the best and and you were just in terms like my experience. I know tons of kids and my year who have gotten jobs like the top companies most sought after jobs. So it's like it hasn't been an issue at all. I think the connections we have and then the classes even would be able to build our resumes. We had the Career Center, I don't think it's really any hindrance at all to our careers after college.

And I'll just add I'm gonna drop my email in the chat if you have questions, please feel free to ask me. Presser Bernali has his email. So yeah, don't hesitate to reach out.

Me as well.

Perfect, alright, well thank you all. Like I said, we'll go off camera. We'll leave the chat open in case you want to grab any links, any last minute links that you may want on there, but we appreciate you taking an hour or so out of your evening to kind of talk about us to the call with us about the College of Engineering. Congratulations again on being accepted. We hope to see you in the fall here on campus. And if there's anything else we can do to help you out, just just email us. We're very happy to help. Alright have a great night and go Irish.

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