2025 ND Pre-College All Program Live Webinar

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I work with helping coordinate and plan and execute programming for the summer and I also work in our compliance, so ensuring that what we do.

Is with the students best interest in health and safety in mind. Welcome to our pre college webinar. Our intent and goal here is just to give you a brief overview of our domestic programming and our international programming and provide you some tips some guidance and on what would make a strong application and and what makes a strong application so.

I'll talk about the domestic programming and my colleague here will talk about international programming and he'll introduce himself in a little bit.

And then afterwards, we'll open it up to a couple of questions towards the end.

So yeah, yeah, I'm Joe Dre. I currently work as a learning experience manager at pre college programs, but I got connect with the program way back in 2014 when I attended the summer Scholars on campus program. And I've loved it so much. I've worked in some capacity almost every year since either as a resident counselor for the on campus programs, as a resident counselor for some of the online programs we had during COVID, and then as a counselor in our international programs, especially the Ireland program.

It's a huge fan of pre college and everything we're doing.

And I'll pass back to Catalina to talk about our on campus programs. Yeah, so we'll go ahead and get started into our domestic programming. And I'll start first by talking about Leadership Seminars. So leadership Seminars is a 10 day program in which students have the opportunity to live on campus in one of the undergraduate dorms and take a course for credit while they're here. Program takes place between July 19th and July 30th of 2025.

With the exception of the enrollment fee, tuition and room and board are paid for from the program itself.

And it's a program specifically designated for juniors. We offer five, we offer five courses in leadership seminars and during the course of your of your class.

You're working towards a final project.

In addition to living in the dorms, in addition to taking a class during the day, you'll also have the opportunity to participate in a wide array of evening activities that are resident counselors plan for you all which range from.

Ice skating to structured Mario Kart nights, volleyball, and really the list goes on. Just for some context, our resident counselors are current undergraduate students at the university, and so they're primarily responsible for student safety and well-being and serve as mentors for the students. But they're also really pivotal in evoking Notre Dame's mission and planning afternoon and evening activities that help communicate what we're trying to do here at Pre College.

Leadership seminars is our more intensive program in that it has more limited seats. So in comparison to our second program, summer scholars, which I'll talk more about later, we only have about 150 spots available for leadership Seminars. So if that helps contextualize the competitiveness of the of leadership Seminars.

During the course of your program, as I mentioned, you'll be taking the class for credit, but you'll also have the opportunity to travel on a field trip to Chicago.

And the future to Chicago and what you do is structure around your course. So that's leadership seminars. I'll say more about what would make a strong application on that a little bit later, but I'll move for the moment to Summer Scholars. So Summer Scholars are separated into two sessions. The program itself, at least the way it's structured is the same. The difference between both sessions is the courses available. So Summer Scholars is a two week program, so 14 days as opposed.

10 days that takes place on campus students have the opportunity to live in an undergraduate residence hall, eat at the dining hall and also take a course for credit and so.

And also participate in a wide array of evening activities after their classes. So the way the program is structured is you're in class from 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM, with an hour lunch break in between between 12:00 and 1:00 usually.

Then after coursework, you have a little bit of free time and then we have even activities planned that students have the option to participate in and and those range from again, ice skating books. For basketball tournaments, resident counselors lead a Bob Ross night where they dress up as Bob Ross and help guide or lead a painting session. This past year they organized something called O Shenanigans. So we have a building on campus called O'Shaughnessy and we.

And each different room within O'Shaughnessy had different activities that students could participate in.

And so yeah, Summer Scholars branches has a larger outreach in that it's not just exclusively for high school juniors, it it's also a high school sophomores are also eligible to apply for this program. And again, which session you end up applying to is really dependent on two things, your availability sessions take place on different dates and your course preference at the moment.

We have about 3 or 4 courses that are offered in both sessions.

And so if if those happen to be one of your courses of interest, then really it depends on your specific time availability. But the majority of our summer scholar courses are session dependent. So when selecting and choosing which session to apply to, be mindful of the course you're interested in and be mindful of which session it takes place in. But yeah, that summer scholars while here on campus, in the spirit of Notre Dame's mission to be forces of for the common good, you'll also.

Participate in a day of service or 1/2 day of service in which we provide the transportation to take you to one of our local nonprofits and you'll serve there for a couple of hours. Summer Scholars also has 1 field day, so it's 1/2 day where we have ice cream trucks, we have inflatable games that students can play volleyball going, music going. So it's a really.

A lot of programming is structured into those two weeks, but.

Students tend to take a lot from it, not just from the coursework itself, but you get, albeit really small, but you get a good taste of what undergraduate life would look like here at Notre Dame. And then I'll see a little bit more about, again, what makes a strong application a little bit. And so I'll pass it on to Joe Trey. We'll talk about a little bit about our study abroad. All right, so a huge part of the Notre Dame undergraduate experience is study abroad. So Notre Dame is one of the highest percentages of.

Students that study abroad in the country. And so to bring that to our pre college audience, we have 4 different opportunities for high school students to go with Notre Dame faculty and students to one of these four countries. I'll talk about here in a second for a two week trip and class. So our four destinations this year are Italy, London, Ireland and South Africa. You can see the dates there on the slide, but they range from June 7th and the last one gets back around August 10th.

Each of these locations is really special because they have a connection with the University of Notre Dame. We have various gateways around the world that house faculty from the university, house students every semester, and also just has a lot of thinkers from those countries that allow us to have our students interact at a high level on about the countries. So our Italy program is based in Rome. There is some travel around it, but mainly in Rome.

During junior of undergrad for architecture students, they're all required to spend their entire year.

In Rome and so this program is mainly based on architecture, but also a lot of history.

Of the city and kind of current day politics as well.

The awesome part about the Italy program, I would like to say is that the place where you'd be staying is that Notre Dame's gateway there and it's located just a couple blocks from the Coliseum. So that's really an awesome place to visit. Our London program is one of our biggest programs for undergraduate students and thus is a very robust set of faculty available to our pre college students. So what you learn about in that track is very broad, everything for finance, economics to history to politics.

Even literature. It's a great program located in the heart of Rome. A couple weeks meeting with a lot of noting faculty and kind of learning while experiencing the island program is one I've been most familiar with and went on last year. Incredible experience. Two weeks, one week in the east half of the country in Dublin studying politics and history. Spend a day up in Belfast learning about the Troubles and then you head to the West Coast of the country.

And stay at Kyle Moore Abbey, if you haven't heard of that, it's worth a quick Google search up Cotmore Abbey. And that's where we stay for an entire week throughout the program, learning about Irish culture and history and lore and different myths and stuff. So it's an incredible 2 week experience in Ireland, getting really connected with land and with the people.

And then finally, our South Africa program is mainly based around the concept or the topic of apartheid and history of that and how.

The country has been dealing with the ramifications of that. It's led by one of our star faculty here and their name, Andre Venter, who goes with the group and spends the entire time with the group there.

It begins with a real kind of deep dive into the history of apartheid and then kind of ends by travelling the southern part of the country, kind of reflecting on the experience. All four of these experiences are a great way for experienced travels to get kind of behind the scenes and see a lot of things that normal travelers can't see when visiting these countries, leveraging their names, resources, or.

A great opportunity for people that maybe never left the country before to get that kind of study abroad experience in a really safe and exciting way and meet a lot of awesome people from around the country in the world. Our pre college office always says we like view the study abroad program as learning through the soles of your feet. And I really like that example because it's really what it is. I just remember one day we were studying Oscar Wilde's poetry and then all of a sudden you're at a museum that has his original works right in front of you and learning from one of the top Oscar Wilde.

Experts in the country. So all the programs have, you know, incredible experts, incredible trips and it's a really great experience to grow in your worldview and get good study abroad experience from what that might be like during college. If you have any questions about that, feel free to put them in the questions and we'll get back to them during our Q&A. But for now, I'll pass back to Catalina and talk about the application. Perfect. So we'll move on to the application process.

I'll try to partition this between leadership seminars and summer scholars just to avoid any confusion.

The application itself is pretty identical, but the selection criteria differs a little bit in terms of what makes the typical or typically ideal student. So leadership seminars, as I mentioned earlier, is exclusively for current high school juniors or so these are students who are currently in their junior year and are going to be seniors. Fall 2025 S exclusively for high school juniors.

These students are typically in the top five to 10% of their class.

If they do submit as if they do submit scores, their Sats are generally between 1300 and 1500 and their SAT scores are either are at 31 or above.

Brief note on test scores. So while we encourage students submit any test scores they do have, SATS, A/C, TS, those are not required. Student has the option not to not not to include those if they don't want to, but if they do have them, we highly encourage them to include them.

In that applies for both leadership seminars and summer scholars. For leadership seminars, we're looking for students who have shown leadership in their community in some capacity and and again, how you show leadership can differ from student to student. It does not have to exclusively be student government or really even a school club. It could be clubs within their local community in which they're helping to mobilize events and efforts to improve some sort of.

Issue within their local community or city and again.

Once you ought to bear in mind that these characteristics that I'm describing don't you know, we don't have a checkbox that the committee looks for. And so if you don't fit nicely into one of these characteristics that I'm describing, please keep in mind that our admissions process is holistic. We recognize that students time and availability can differ. So leadership can look very differently from student to student. Leadership is also a student who may be is dedicating more time to their home life because of.

Some extending circumstance and we recognize that it takes time away from other potential opportunities, so bear that in mind. So the application for leadership seminars opened October 14th and the deadline for that is January 2nd. The application itself consists of an transcript, a school profile which her high school counselor will submit for you. 2 essays, each of which are 300 words.

A resume.

Any test scores if you're wanting to include those?

And the letter of recommendation from a high school teacher. So once I go over summer scholars selection criteria that are that make a typically successful candidate. I'll say a little bit more on what we recommend you including your application. So for summer scholars, the application itself is identical the essays, the essay prompts themselves will change, but otherwise it will it's also an online application also transcript also high school.

Profile that your council will submit test scores if you wanted to include them. Resume in a letter of recommendation.

And so the application for summer Scholars opened also on October 14th. That one however, is not due until February 19th. So a bit more time to complete that application if that's what you're wanting to do. So tips on what we would want to see in an application so.

Again, the admissions committee can't make a decision beyond what you present in the application. So every component is equally important. We don't weigh one thing more than another. It's we, we take all the information that you give us, both quantitative and not, and we use that to make and make a decision on on whether you would be a good fit for our program. But overall, for literary recommendation to start, I highly recommend, we highly recommend that you so that you ask a teacher.

That truly knows you and is able to say more than what you were able to do in the classroom in terms of a letter grade. If, for example, you ask an APT shirt to write a letter of recommendation because you got an A in that course, that's a good start. But if your recommender says that you are smart because you got an aim, of course, then that's not really adding too much to your application. We can already kind of surmise that from your transcript. We, you know, an A in and of itself kind of implies that.

Hard working in that you have some sort of intellectual talents that are coming through. We want more context. What was that Great. Maybe you know, a result of hard work resilience that it may be not start off that way and end up in an A. So highly recommend asking a recommender or a teacher who who knows you and who is who's able to speak about how your efforts in the classroom translate to what you're doing outside of that or vice versa.

Essays are very are are very important as well.

We want to make sure that your personality comes through in some capacity because again, we can't, we don't do interviews for our application process. And so the best way for us to know you is through the essays. And so we highly recommend that you have someone who is not only able to look at it from a grammatical or technical perspective. So sentence structure.

Typos, grammar, etcetera. But someone who knows you, someone who can read it and say, oh, this sounds like you, this sounds like you're coming through in the application and so.

A good essay will always help an application, give us more nuance to what you're presenting and really round out the person that you're presenting your application. So essay is important as well. I'll say more on resume building in a little bit later on, and I'll expand on on a good essay later on, but overall these are.

The more.

The more important, I guess tips that I have for you in terms of what makes a strong application. And so I'll talk a little bit more about which program is right for you. So, and this is not just for domestic programming, but also abroad programming. So when when trying to select which program is for you, I mean, there are a couple of questions you need to consider. One, are you wanting to experience?

Notre Dame life domestically or are you wanting to experience Notre Dame life abroad and.

And if you answer one way or another that that makes it pretty clear cut. And and so I'll say more on which program might be good for you domestically and then Joe Dre will will see a little bit more on what which abroad program could be good for you. So again in terms of leadership seminars and summer scholars, which program is good for you will depend on a couple of factors. One will be course interest again in summer scholars we offer.

30 plus courses.

And again, only three or four are available in both sessions. But we are really lucky and that we're partnered with actual Notre Dame faculty professors, some of whom were my professors when I was an undergrad here. And we're partnered with professors from various disciplines and various experiences. And so which your course interest will ultimately guide and be a good indicator of where you want to be.

I would also highly encourage you to sit down with a counselor or trusted teacher and just look at you know what your application looks like and keep while bearing in mind these selection criteria that I mentioned earlier.

Again, the selection criteria mentioned earlier, our checklist items, we don't, you know, we don't only look for those characteristics, but just bear in mind which program better fits what you have on your application.

And so, yeah, at least at least domestically that that's my advice on selecting between leadership seminars and Summer Scholars. Are you summer scholars again? Is is 2 weeks? Summer Scholars has more available seats. So just for some context, between both Section 1 and Session 2, Summer Scholars has about 600, between 600 and 620 seats available.

If not just slightly more. And it's leadership seminars is only 150, so if that helps contextualize competitiveness.

I, I, you know, see the number of seats available severely decreases for leadership seminars, and so bear that in mind as you select which domestic program to apply to.

Yeah. As far as international, it really just comes down to where you want to have that summer experience. Obviously, the dates are all different for the program, so find one that works with your dates and then find one that you think you'd have a good experience. I would say the Ireland and Rome programs are maybe a little bit easier from AUS context, a little less culture shock in that example, but that's not the scary way from any of the others. All the programs are extremely safe, extremely comfortable with Notre Dame.

Leaders the entire time and we've heard nothing but positive reviews from all the programs, so you can't really go wrong with any of those. My biggest advice would just be to pick something you're interested in.

Pick a place you're interested in and justice go have a fantastic time over the summer. Perfect.

Selecting the course. So this one is a bit more nuanced. So I'm going to, I'm going to dedicate a little bit more time here just so you go into the application process with as much clarity as you can. So I mentioned earlier that Leadership Seminars only offers 5 courses, Summer Scholars offers 30 plus courses. And so again, which program you select to select will kind of depend on.

What what your course interest is?

And so for summer scholars specifically, the course you select will be driven by your personal interest. So what are you interested in? What are you wanting to do? What are you wanting to experience? Are you wanting to maybe build on your interest in photography and design? We have a class called Creativity in the Age of AI where you study the nuances and implications of AI and trying to be creative. Are you wanting?

To maybe expand your interest in engineering and we have an engineering course that we offer that will you know be a two week deep dive into.

That field, but also keep in mind what you have and what experiences you bring. So when the admissions committee is selecting students for summer scholars, we want to ensure that the student is going to enjoy their time here. So if a student, for instance, presents clubs like.

Yearbook photography and they're applying for the engineering course. We want to make sure that there's a good fit for the engineering course and typically our STEM courses tend to be more popular and more in demand, which means that they're a bit more competitive to get into. So bear that in mind. My best advice would be to sit down with again with a trusted school.

Person or your high school counselor. Have your transcript and your resume open and look at our course listings and see which one best fits your resume.

Because ultimately that will really help drive what course is a good fit for you.

I discussed competitiveness, I discussed sitting down with your counselor. Again, we want to ensure that, you know, this is just two weeks and these are taught by Indy faculty professors in a lot of cases, for example, like life sciences. Life sciences is a, an abbreviated version of Intruder bio that I took here as an undergrad. So we want to make sure that you're, you're enjoying your time and that while it can be a little challenging, that you're not overwhelmed and, and not taking away from the experience. And so.

And that's something that the committee tries to really bear in mind. And so it comes to a point where grades are a really good indicator. But if your resume has leans towards design, leads towards the arts, then I highly suggest selecting the course that bisfits those preferences and interest. You select three courses when you apply in order of preference. So most preferred to lease preferred.

If your interest and your resume and transcript are really aligned with STEP and by all means, I encourage you to rank a STEM course as your number one course, but I also encourage you to diversify.

And perhaps consider, of course, in the arts or in the liberal arts as #2 maybe you have some interest in debate and what that looks like. Maybe you're considering a career in law at some point and you just wanted to know more.

If we believe you're a good fit for the program and, and would benefit from the program, you know, we could, you know, the the committee could lean on your second preferred course. So, and again, the idea here is to give you a taste of the college experience and to demystify what that is and to introduce again the Notre Dame collegiate experience and.

Really, our goal when you know, is to really broaden your.

Modes of thinking and introduce you to modes of thinking that you may not have considered. So I highly encourage you to diversify your course selection and your course preferences.

And yeah, those are the the main things I want to say about selecting the course again, your course preference, which session you apply to again has is will also depend on your schedule and your availability. But please, you know, we've had students be disappointed in that they were selected for.

A session 2 course when they thought they were applying for session 1. So when looking at her course listing, please keep keep that in mind that certain that the majority of our summer scholar courses are offered in specific sessions and the tips that I presented for selected of course with summer scholars would also apply to leadership seminars. Consider your app, consider where your preferences consider your interest. What does your resume look like? What does your transcript look like and what looks like a good fit.

Yeah. And one more thing I would add on that topic is just don't be afraid to.

Explore something and because you're not locking yourself into anything in college, maybe it goes without saying, but whatever class you end up in summer scholars does not at all have to correlate with what you end up studying when you're in school. So take a chance on something you're interested in and see what that might be like in a college experience. And either way, you'll have a really valuable experience. You can apply when you're trying to figure out what you want to do in college. If if you happen to apply for the engineering course, but then we place you, you get placed in your second preference. That doesn't mean you can't be an engineering major at Notre Dame.

We model our emissions process to that of UGA, but we're distinct in a lot of very.

You know, specific factors and so you know, not getting into a course should not be interpreted as, oh, I can't be this major editor.

So I'll move on to resume writing. Resumes are great resource for the admissions committee to get to know exactly what you're involved in and your level of involvement. So.

When writing your resume, again, highly encourage and highly suggesting. I cannot stress this enough to.

Have to have a trusted high school or or personal guardian in high school counselor review it include community involvement, school activities and service or any other type of involvement you may have. And this could include band. This could include local like theater efforts like we've seen a large array of activities included under resume. And so whatever you think is relevant and whatever you think helps.

Bolster and present who you are outside of the classroom and by all means, I encourage you to include that. I think at one point I saw a resume that included a student that was a ranked Fortnite player and that's something that again, really helps build the student. And so and that that's something that's noteworthy. Not many people I would say are are, are ranked, you know, Fortnite players and so.

Goes without saying, check your spelling and grammar. That does have an impact on on our ability to interpret your resume and and look at it so.

Again, include things that just say more about you and your involvement, your interest outside of the classroom. We can see, we can see your transcript so we can gauge exactly what what that looks like. But we want to know more and especially for leadership seminars where you want to see that leadership experience come through.

I mentioned this earlier, but I'll say a little bit more about it without trying to be very redundant. Essays are important. They're your opportunity to present yourself and your personality. We recognize that it's not a lot of room 300 words goes by really quickly. And so be mindful about what you write, how you write it, and again, have a high school counselor.

Trusted teacher review it for not just technical items like grammar and.

And other such, you know, English things, but just to make sure that your personality is coming through.

And that you know who you are and, and what you're interested in and your passions come through in the essay in some capacity. The essay could also be a good opportunity to talk more about your personal life, things that we can't see in your transcript or resume, like, you know, extenuating circumstances at home or challenges you faced and overcome or are overcoming and navigating. So essay is a really good opportunity to present those things there.

In our application process, as you said earlier, is very similar to what you're going to find at Notre Dame's undergraduate programs or any school at the undergraduate level around the country. So if you're on the fence about applying, I think one of the most impactful parts of the program, besides being on campus when I did it, was going through the actual process of filling out an application, talking to my recommenders, writing essays, compiling my resume. When it came time to actually apply for undergraduate.

Studies. It was just I knew what I was doing in a different way. I knew.

What people are looking for as far as writing essays, and it's just good to have that practice done before. So I definitely recommend at least going through that process, seeing how you do writing essays, because it's a different style of writing than many people are used to during high school. Yeah. Yeah. Those are, I think, really summarize our tips for the essays and really for the whole application in general. We'll move on to some, I think, very important conversations too, which is financial aid and grants. So we do have a financial aid process.

For leadership seminars, again I want to stress that the program is if admitted students are automatically covered or or are automatically granted full funding for.

Further, room, tuition and board. The main costs that come with leadership seminars are the application fee and the enrollment fee and travel to and from campus. So bear that in mind for leadership seminars.

And again, because the program fully funds admitted students, we only have a very limited number of spots to offer. Unfortunately, Summer Scholars, again is bigger. So that does come with, you know, a cost for room, tuition and board and also enrollment and application fee. But we do have financially unavailable. There's a financial aid application that your parent or your parent or guardian is able to submit for you.

And that's due by the application deadline for summer scholars, which is February 19th. By submitting that financial aid application, you're automatically considered for.

Any financial aid we have, we are very lucky that we're partnered with certain organizations and certain funding groups that are available to certain students of certain certain areas or certain interest. So a few, just to name a few. The Lilly Endowment grant is something we have. That one is specifically for Indiana high school students and, and so that would help cover and provide.

Assistance for room, board and tuition.

The Philadelphia grant, which again, which says so in the name, helps cover students in the Philadelphia area. And so how that money is dispersed, again, is based on the certain eligibility criteria within that specific grant, But that is funding that could be available for students from Philadelphia. The KPMG accounting grant is exclusively for students who apply for the accounting course. And so again, that's again funding for students who apply and are admitted into that course that could be available to them.

And so again, we do have some financial aid available, umm, and, and you know, depending on which one of these funds that you may be eligible for travel is considered on a case by case basis, umm, and so, but again, highly encourage if, if cost might be an issue to apply for financial aid. Umm, no guarantees again on that funding that, that, that you know, that we will be able to fund, but.

Umm, we do have a certain amount of funds available for students and if you have any questions about that, please call us and we can help.

Provide a bit more information on that. I want to stress again that the financial aid application should be submitted by a parent or guardian. The student should not be submitting it. It's a very brief form. It does not ask for any official documents. It's just certain demographics that they're required to fill out. So that pretty much covers an an overview. And we recognize that we threw quite a bit at you in terms of our domestic programming, our international programming and the specific nuts and bolts.

About the application process and our tips for making a strong application. So we'll now move towards our Q&A and so.

We'll try to answer these as they come in.

So is first question here is by Ben and I don't I don't want to mispronounce your last name, but it's the last name starts with an SCH is leadership scholar. I'm assuming you're referring to seminars for income engineers or just before senior year.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by just before senior year, since junior year is right before your senior year, but it is just for high school juniors.

That will be seniors. That will be seniors, Yes, yes.

Ben also had a follow up, how many students are usually in the Summer Scholar course experience number on campus each session? It's a good question. So I did mention earlier that that the total number of spots available between Summer Scholars 1 and Summer Scholars 2 is about 620 or so, a little bit more I believe each each session admits about 315, so 3 about 310 and 15 spots.

Available per session and per class. We try to cap it at between 20 and 25 students.

There are exceptions though. So for example, if you're interested in the debate, our public speech and debate course is capped at 16 students because your professor models the class and works towards a final debate between that's divided equally between 8:00 and 8:00 students. So, but typically you won't see anything too much larger than 20 to 25.

Yeah, there's a question about the study abroad programs and what years you have to be for that program. Current sophomores and juniors can apply. You'd be a rising junior or senior able to apply to any of the study abroad programs.

Here's one, being able to study abroad in Ireland would be incredible. What sort of things do you recommend to maximize my chances of being selected? That's a great question. Similar things to what Catalina talked about during his essays and resume writing, but it's a really focus on your story and what you're interested in Ireland. Why do you think that'd be value for you, What you can bring to that experience and what you will get out of that experience?

If your personality and interest comes through in that application, I think you have a strong chance.

It would be great to just talk about, you know, what about Ireland specifically is interesting to you.

And why, you know, form of travel is study abroad during high school might be really valuable to you if you let your personality come out. I think that would be a very strong application for the international ones. And then could you confirm the class or the?

Which class so here brought us for rising juniors only, correct. I believe it's both ages. Only rising junior. I'm just kidding. Only rising junior. Just kidding. Yes, my bad. Only rising juniors for a study abroad, rising seniors can look at the audience programs. So could you clarify due date? So yeah, I'll, I'll present the due date for the domestic programming again.

For the you said it says what January 22nd online January 22nd deadline is for leadership seminars. That application is live. And so January 22nd is our deadline for leadership seminars. Our summer scholars deadline is February 19th. So bear that in mind. Leadership seminars is coming up within about a month and then summer scholars deadline is not till February 19th.

So.

We'll go ahead and move on to the next question. I hope that helps.

Are the summer scholar programs taught by Notre Dame faculty or lectures or are the outside hires? We recognize that students have the opportunity to select through other highly selective institutions who also offer pre college programs. We're really lucky in again, that we're partnered with actual Notre Dame faculty professors. So these are professors who work on campus, who teach a course on campus, who have their own research projects and.

An involvement in other academic pursuits. And so again, some of the some of these professors were my professors in undergrad. And it's interesting being on the on the behind the scenes and what goes into making a course. And so, for example, for life sciences professor Mark Olson.

Was my intro to bio lab professor. So I have, you know, it's taught in the same lab that I was in. So it's interesting being in there. You know, several years later, honoring Ventura was my intro to psych professor. And so it's interesting just the way they are. They are able to summarize a whole semester in two weeks. And so yeah, we're really fortunate to be partner with 30 plus professors from various disciplines who teach our courses.

Next question is if you are accepted for one of the summer programs or online summer programs. We don't offer online summer programs. So just want to briefly clarify that we only offer in person summer programming for domestic and abroad. We used to during COVID, yeah, that's since changed. So I want to briefly just clarify that so that there's not confusion. Are your chances of getting into Notre Dame overall increased or no difference so.

That's a very good question. That's a question we get a lot so.

We model our admissions process to that of undergraduate admissions. And as I said earlier, we're really, we're, we're different and very distinct ways, which means that our admissions decision should not be interpreted as having any bearing on your admissions decision for undergraduate, for your, you know, the general undergraduate population. So to answer your questions, is it increased or no? Well, you know, it again has no bearing.

Admissions into one of our programs should be.

Considered a.

More of a because we model, let me rephrase a little bit, because we model our emissions process to that of undergraduate admissions. We're looking for similar things that they look for. We're we're, we're reading your applications in very similar ways that they do, which means that getting into one of our programs means that we see something in your application in your essays.

In you that indicate to us that you have the potential to be a competitive applicant for the university. So it should it should be taken as you're on the right track, you're doing the right things to be competitive, keep doing those things, but it should not be interpreted as I am more likely to that that I would you want to say. So I hope that answers your question.

Next question, do you accept leadership seminarian admissions? When do you send the admissions decision for that program?

So to answer the first part, let me go back to it briefly. We do not admit unruly admissions. So there's no, there's no advantage to submitting now and submitting January 22nd at 11:58 PM. So, so we don't read applications and the committee doesn't read applications until they've all been submitted and we compile them. So no rolling admissions. So no advantage really to applying.

Other than maybe your Peace of Mind if it's something that's becoming a stressor.

Admissions decisions for the leadership seminars, if I recall correctly, and I'm just going to gauge because I don't want to mislead, is late March to early April. So just bear that in mind. You mentioned that Summer Scholars accepts between 600 and 650. How many applications do you receive?

That number varies year to year, I would say that.

I have to confirm numbers on that one. It is pretty high. And so again, it's not a applying is not a guarantee. There is a there, there, there is competitiveness to this and there is, it is a selective program. And again, I don't want to get, I don't really want to say too much on acceptance rates because that's, that's a number that's really hard to gauge because again, you're, you're not applying just to our program. You're applying to the courses that you're ranking in order of preference and.

Different courses have different demands and popularity, so saying any number would be misleading, but just do bear in mind that it's selective and it's competitive. Is it recommended to upload a resume for the leadership seminar instead of adding activities? I would say yes, even if you list the activities and I would still upload that resume 'cause it it could help provide more context on what you're doing and what your interests are.

Outside of the classroom.

Next question by Mary Hardwick. Apologies for the previous questions, I haven't.

Named anybody who's answered them, but I hope that you're that they've answered your individual questions. If I start an application for scholars, I'm assuming you're referring to summer scholars, but change my mind. I want to do a leadership seminar. How do I delete the first application so I can apply for the seminar? So there's separate applications, so starting one doesn't affect starting or not starting another one. If you start a summer scholars application and just abandon it, that's, you know, something that you have the ability to do.

And you can just start a leadership seminar application. You're more than welcome to.

Um, this next question I will table for a little later just 'cause I, I, I don't want to mislead. What are the, what are the visa requirements for international students? Do we need to acquire F1 visa or does ESTA suffice? Let me put a little pause on that one and I'll get back to you, Martin. OK? Yeah. And if you e-mail us at precall@nd.edu, we can handle those really specific questions as well and get you the exact answers you need.

For the international programs, do you pick a subject to focus on or does each program come with certain subjects?

Yeah, Logan, that's a great question. Each of the programs has a set curriculum already. They usually cover a wide variety of different topics. The London 1 is a little more wide than the South Africa one, which is a little more focused, but each of them have a preset program and it's mostly on history, politics, culture.

And sometimes architecture of the cities that you're located in. Perfect. Adeline. Apologize if I'm mispronouncing that asks.

What does a typical day look like for a Notre Dame student? Also, how important is including a resume and is it required? So I would say resume is really important. A form of the resume is required. So again, we highly encourage students to present to us their interest outside of the classroom. And if you don't submit a resume, it's really hard for us to gauge. Again, the admissions committee can only make a decision decision on what you present in the application and if the application is missing pieces that are important.

To you, we, we can't, we can't take, you know, we can take certain leaps of faith, but you know, that only goes so far. So, you know, I would highly encourage you to include that.

Typical day look like for a Notre Dame student. I'm, I'm going to go ahead and assume or tentatively that you're referring to our domestic programming and summer scholars and leadership seminars. So I'll describe that since it's the most relevant subject to us right now.

So for summer scholars, you you wake up, so your class starts at 9:00 and you're in class from 9:00 to 4:00 PM, with an hour lunch break between 12:00 and 1:00 Monday through Friday.

Before 9, you're waking up. You're getting breakfast at the dining hall, you're making sure you get to class on time. Your resident counselor will walk you to your class the first day, and only the first day, so you're responsible for learning how to get to your classroom after that. This goes without saying. Obviously, if you have trouble, resident counselors will assist, but the expectation is that you are able to get yourself to class.

After the first day after class, there's a little bit of free time, so you have the opportunity to go back to your dorm room, lounge for a little bit. Then you go get dinner at one of our dining halls, and then we have a wide array of activities planned for you. As I mentioned earlier, there are certain nights where you have skate night and mic night. So you'll have the opportunity to skate, have some lemonade, some hot chocolate while you're ice skating, and then we'll be Mike and I going on as well, and that usually includes karaoke.

Scholars who you know.

You know, showcase our talents. So we've had scholars play guitar and sing and do other array of things. There are certain days that you'll have, you know, sewing or Mario Kart tournaments, the Bob Ross night. Like I mentioned earlier, our resident counselors do a very good job of planning events in the in the evenings and they are pretty mindful about planning events that we have a large outreach. So not only sports, not only extroverted activities, but activities where you can be.

And stay to yourself a little bit and justice reflect on your day. Over the weekends, they're a bit more flexible, but we do have a couple of things planned. There's a bookstore basketball tournament that takes place. There's a trivia night. And again, resident counselors are really important in helping plan that during the week. Depending on your class, you may also be going on a field trip. So for example, the neuroscience course goes with this past summer went to the Neuroscience Museum in Indianapolis.

And so you'll have the opportunity to do that as well. And you don't have to worry about how to get there or not. We take care of that for you. That's included in the cost of the program. All you really have to worry about is getting to your pickup location on campus and your pickup location once you're at the museum. So, and again, I did mention that there's a day of service. So there's 1/2 day where we transport you to one of our nonprofits and you have the opportunity to serve there.

And the last thing on the schedule every day ends with a curfew. And so you will have a set curfew time and that's to make sure that you get the sleep you need to be successful in the program.

Perfect. I want to be 749, so I do want to be mindful of time and we do have to end right at 8. So I'll try to push through these last few questions without trying, without dismissing any details that are important.

My school has another scholar calendar and I've just finished my junior year and by January 2025 I will be entering senior year. Do I still fill requirements? Jose let me.

Also take a note of that. And then I want to make sure that I get, you know, an appropriate answer. My hunch right now is leaning towards you're still eligible, but I want to be certain so I don't mislead you. Yeah, Joseph, send us an e-mail.

At pre call it NDI Edu. If you pull up that e-mail one back on the last slide, maybe send us an e-mail with your calendar details. It's right there too. Oh, it's there too. Perfect. I think it's on this one. Yeah. So you send us an e-mail here, we'll make sure we have a specific answer for you.

Is the Philadelphia grant just for those within the city? Boundaries are also in surrounding suburbs.

That's a very good question, Ava. I believe it also includes the broader area, but we would let you know if you're eligible or not once you apply. And so it doesn't hurt to submit a financial, a financial aid application because once you submit it and we look at your demographics, we try to pair you with funding that's best.

Applicable to you.

So we'll go ahead and go up a little bit.

I think the next question was if I if Kono asked if I attended Summer scholars as a sophomore, should I apply to Leadership Seminar or Summer Scholars?

Kano, apologize if I'm mispronouncing that. COSCONO, That really depends on you. You're welcome to apply to Summer scholars again. We honestly have had students who apply to both sessions because they're interested in courses that are offered in different sessions. And so if you took one course, you're after your sophomore year.

You might be interested in taking a different course your after your junior and summer scholars or you might be interested in maybe trying leadership seminars in that experience as well. So there's no limit. So you don't have to, You don't. I don't want you to feel like you can't apply to sermon scholars again because we do offer 30 plus courses and so each course is different. So that again would depend on your preferences, your availability and what you're wanting to do. I actually did it the summer of 2014 and then I did summer scholars again.

2015 and there's some repetition of similar activity nights, but I said it's a completely different experience to take a different class. I picked a subject that was very different from the one before and had maybe an even better time the second time around. So definitely recommend if you're interested in trying it again. It's a great experience. Would you suggest the recommendation letters be from a teacher who teaches the subject that I am applying for the summer program Example given, if I am applying for business in the leadership seminar, should I get the recommendation from a business teacher?

That's a soft yes in that if that teacher is able to give us perspective and what you're interested in and how you've been able to succeed outside of the classroom in that specific field, then yes, but.

Having to recommend her. Let's say an English teacher recommends you for in your plan for the life sciences course of. That English teacher is able to write on your ability to succeed outside of the classroom and can say things about your ability to stand out.

That will also help bolster chances. But I wouldn't I wouldn't try to look for recommenders who fit a course if you don't know them well. Again, for recommenders, it all goes down to how well do they know you and and how can they speak on your ability to succeed? How your success in the classroom translates to success outside of that next question.

See apologies.

If you're applying for Summer Scholars session one and your second preference of a course would be in Summer Scholars session 2, is a separate application required? Yes, so applicate. There are separate applications for Summer Scholars session one and session 2.

When you list your course preferences, they all have to be in the same session, so be wary of that. If you're wanting to apply for both sessions, you're welcome to. There's no guarantee you'll get into both. You might get into one and not the other or vice versa so. But if you have interest in courses that are offered in different sessions.

Yeah, you're welcome to apply to both sessions. I'm seeing a couple questions about archaeology specifically. I'd recommend going to our course list for the on campus ones. You can see exactly what courses are taught and kind of what details they go into as far as archaeology during the international programs, none of them are solely focused on archaeology, but a lot of them have bits of archaeology weave throughout. For example, in our island program, we have a day where we go to the National Museum of Archaeology.

And explore things that have been preserved in the bogs of Ireland.

Go through a lot of archaeology, maybe a day or two of that trip. So I'd say that'd be probably pretty similar for most of the abroad ones. They're all kind of split between subjects as you go along.

The study abroad program Alpha Financial aid. Go ahead.

Very, very, very, very limited. I think there is some funding, but it's very limited. So bear that in mind. And so again, applying for financial aid is no guarantee to funding, but we highly encourage you to do that, to do so in order to be considered for any funding. We do have available CAN AP exam scores and the funding is only for London.

I want to clarify, funding is only for London, so no funding unfortunately available for our other 3 summer abroad programs. The funding that is available, the limited funding that is available is for London only unfortunately. Gabriella asked, can AP exam scores be submitted as part of an application? Yes, yes, by all means, because again, they help, they help present some sort of quantitative information about your ability to succeed. So absolutely encourage you to submit those if you have them.

Let me just rummage through your questions one more time to ensure we covered it. We're at 7:55.

So a few moments to spare.

If any other questions come at any time, feel free to e-mail us at precall@nd.edu. We're pretty responsive and we'll get back to you as quickly as we can with really specific questions.

Mason asked. Can we access the slideshow anywhere? This webinar will be available in some capacity after we after the IT ends, And again, if we didn't. If we didn't get your questions, please send us an e-mail at precall@nd.edu. Our office staff, myself included.

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L rummage one more time just to make sure that.

I think we've covered most of them again if we happen to miss yours, and I know that there are two questions, one for Mason.

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Yeah, thank you for taking time out of your evening to learn more and we look forward to hopefully seeing you on campus or around the world sometime soon. Yeah, sounds good and enjoy your time and yeah, hope this helped in some capacity.

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